Curse

Surena · Mar 12, 2008, 03:08 PM // 15:08

If I use a German Name in RA all these autopilot failures call me a Nazi. I once had a funny screenshot collection of various name-callings. The best one was one English guy who just had to tell me (after getting killed and losing) for half an hour how England's contribution in WW2 lead to Nazi Germany's downfall. That's a pretty gory engine he had there in his head.

If people hear that there are girls in my guild (or meet them during playing) they automatically either assume that they are fat and ugly or they think they can somehow take over with free candy (ectos, runs). What follows is a submissive plea to join the guild.

On the other hand I disdain exploitation of nerds (no offense, I have excellent people here at work) by playing pretty princess on the internet.

Kusandaa · Mar 12, 2008, 03:16 PM // 15:16

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Originally Posted by Tatile

Personally I presume them to take fun in insulting anyone who knows English either as a primary or secondary language. Need I explain why it's insulting? I think not.

I get what you mean. I speak both French and English, and I don't generally use the fact I speak French more than English (but this can be debatable, husband speaks English only and we spend a lot of time together, but I went to French schools, universities, and I speak French when I'm not with him) as an excuse of bad English. Except when I'm tired, I make stupid mistakes... even in French.

When I see a "CN I C DIS WEAPON PLZZZZZZZZZ???" I just can't help but think of a kid begging for a toy. The worse is that I have kids around to compare, these days! My nephews are around, one is 5, one is 3. In English, if he wants something, it's going go to be a "pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase???". And I compare it with "PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZ" which sounds as insisting...

In our alliance, we have a very similar mindset about language. If you wanna make fun of someone and let them know you're not serious at all, use netspeak. "LOLOLOLOLOL U NUB GTFO". No one's gonna take you seriously and you'll get laughs and similar replies. "IM NOT A NUB I HAZ MENDING".

At this rate I'm gonna edit all my posts with wall of texts, but I promise this edit is gonna be short.

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Originally Posted by Surena

If I use a German Name in RA all these autopilot failures call me a Nazi. I once had a funny screenshot collection of various name-callings. The best one was one English guy who just had to tell me (after getting killed and losing) for half an hour how England's contribution in WW2 lead to Nazi Germany's downfall. That's a pretty gory engine he had there in his head.

That's... disturbing. Just... plain disturbing. But some people are literally obsessed with such things, and as much as I can say Nazism was bad, I'd never accuse a German guy that I just met in a random outpost of being a Nazi. "Nazi" doesn't rhyme with German for me, but I've seen commentaries on how people associated both at a quite discusting level. And it ticks me off. >_>.

Tatile · Mar 12, 2008, 03:29 PM // 15:29

Nice Alliance there Kusandaa (needless to say I'm jealous, what with having a very small online friendship circle

). It's easy to make typos, whether you're tired or not, and for that allowances should be made.

The constant 'plz, pls, plx' and what-not is annoying and implies idiocy. The person may not be an idiot, but I'll view them as one for that sort of language (just like excessive swearing). If I'm in a rush, I use thus rather than therefore (:3 I'm smart, lulz) or w/ instead of with, but only around guildies. As general rule, proper grammar or the closest thing to it, is good.

On a side note I really should learn Afrikaans, what with being half-SA and everything.

Stereotype of yesterday: You're smart and really good at writing essays, so why do you suck at exams Tatile? Why do have an 'E' in Media Studies of all things? You're smart!

I'll let you figure out the reason here.

Velise_Snowtorm · Mar 12, 2008, 03:42 PM // 15:42

Just echoing what other female gamers have said...

Many other players assume that girls don't exist on the net, or if they do, they either: 1. assume you are some ugly fat nerd chick, or 2. perfectly available to hit on or make sexual remarks to.

I don't post my RL pics on any forum, and the only Vent server I will ever log onto is my guild's server. I had it up to my eyeballs when I used to log onto a Vent/TS server for a PuG and get hit with "OMG a girl!" or "You sound hot, where do you live?" or far worse...

I play the game with my boyfriend (of 5 years). Even if I were 'available', I am not interested in meeting guys online.

Terra Xin · Mar 12, 2008, 04:13 PM // 16:13

Stereotypes and Guild Wars is equal to Local Chat and Off.

naughteblonde · Mar 12, 2008, 05:42 PM // 17:42

Another girl echoing some of the sentiments here.
I think it may be a lack of reaility in recognising that the pixels on the screen are not actually me in person. Unfortunately for the that means that Im not a 6ft blonde ele in scanty armor. I could be an 80yr old bloke in a gimp mask. Heck 80yr old blokes in gimp masks should be able to play 6ft blonde eles if they want. My character is simply how I interact with the game and will not tell you everything about me in one glance.
There is also the misconception among that group that any female playing must either be unnattractive in some form or free sport. The idea that I, as a girl, have bought GW to play the game and not to strip/dance/cyber/be their online gf seems a completely foreign concept. How can I not be either an overweight nerd who is desperately searching for someone just like them or an eager semi porn star with a webcam?
If Ive failed to meet their absurd fantasy usually abuse will shortly follow.
As a result Im in a guild with a total number of 2 members - me and my OH.
Its a pity that those sort of players sour the experience for so many as there are players who are willing to see that the pixels on the screen arent the be all and end all of the player themselves and that sort of player makes this game worthwhile.

Shikaru · Mar 12, 2008, 06:13 PM // 18:13

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Originally Posted by tehlemming

I assume that all girls are bad at warrior.

I've yet to be disproven.

QFT, and I'm assuming this is pertaining to PvP? I have never seen a good female warrior/caller in an organized pvp group before

Esan · Mar 12, 2008, 06:21 PM // 18:21

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Originally Posted by naughteblonde

The idea that I, as a girl, have bought GW to play the game and not to strip/dance/cyber/be their online gf seems a completely foreign concept.

You are exaggerating. There are many guilds that aren't an endless sausage fest. Some prominent ones are even led by "girl"s. I would recommend trying out the guild recruitment boards here on Guru.

naughteblonde · Mar 12, 2008, 06:30 PM // 18:30

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Originally Posted by Esan

You are exaggerating. There are many guilds that aren't an endless sausage fest. Some prominent ones are even led by "girl"s. I would recommend trying out the guild recruitment boards here on Guru.

I dont doubt it. Im sure there are a lot of female headed guilds and a lot of other female gamers like me. My previous guild to this was headed by a female player. Unfortunately it is that portion of the community that thinks in terms of girl player=free ride that spoils it for the female players and for the male players who simply dont think or act like that.
Enough 'Ur hot! Wanna cyber?'s and it seems less hassle to stay insular than getting an earful of abuse everytime you refuse to have online sex with whoever propositions you.

Taurucis · Mar 12, 2008, 06:38 PM // 18:38

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Originally Posted by Shikaru

QFT, and I'm assuming this is pertaining to PvP? I have never seen a good female warrior/caller in an organized pvp group before

This is the kind of stereotypes that female GW players have to put up with. People think that we can't play GW just because we're female.

Malice Black · Mar 12, 2008, 06:43 PM // 18:43

I personally don't care about peoples sex/sexual orientation/race/religion etc etc

As long as they are willing to get a long with everyone etc I'm happy. People who whine about swearing etc are annoying though. People who preach over guild chat get the boot (religion belongs in church)

Tatile · Mar 12, 2008, 06:47 PM // 18:47

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Originally Posted by Taurucis

This is the kind of stereotypes that female GW players have to put up with. People think that we can't play GW just because we're female.

Also it stems from the fact that people tend towards remembering bad experiences more oftern and easier than remembering good ones. I've been in good PuG's but most of the time I only recall bad experiences.

Then again female stereotyping is rampant within society whether people want to admit it or not. Look at all the pink trash flogged at the ever younger market. Curling tongs, straightners, make-up; it all portrays women as being shallow, vapid individuals.

Okies, rant over. People suck in general, not matter what

Persons can be great, but people suck.

**cosyfiep** · Mar 12, 2008, 06:47 PM // 18:47

oh yeah, another lady here....yep been hit on soo many times.. until

they find out I am married (been with the same guy since Reagan was president of the usa)....and that I wont go on vent (uhm, when I made my computer I didnt include useless things like a mic, sorry.)....and I wont dance (my male monk looks very funny dancing for people---

).

I choose to play both male and female characters, I didnt like any of the choices for monk when I first started so my monk is a guy....and I have a male rit as well (he is cute

)....

I have found quite a few ladies playing the game and have added many of them to my friends list. (and yes I have a warrior and its female!---the male choices again, were butt ughly--though made my hubby make one when we first started playing .)

Mr. G · Mar 12, 2008, 06:53 PM // 18:53

I must admit (despite my terrible use of it) I HATE abuse of the English language, I dont mind people with their little quirks (I tend to say 'lo indstead of hello)

"U" instead of "You" i can also deal with

but if its "waz" instead of "was"...I guess I'll never get it, its not even shorter so why not spell it correctly

The only time i tend to speak like that is when im layering on sarcasm with a spatula

RedNova88 · Mar 12, 2008, 06:54 PM // 18:54

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Originally Posted by Shikaru

QFT, and I'm assuming this is pertaining to PvP? I have never seen a good female warrior/caller in an organized pvp group before

Well, sprouting the idea that girls are bad at video games is just plain stupid. My GF doesn't play Guild Wars but I've watched her play tons of different games and I'm pretty sure she could make most male players cry and wet their pants simultaneously.

creelie · Mar 12, 2008, 07:16 PM // 19:16

Every once in a while (not often anymore since I really don't play in PUGs) someone will whisper me asking if I'm a girl in RL. I usually tell them I'm a 400-pound bald man covered in cheese dust and playing in his underwear.

Res Ipsi · Mar 12, 2008, 07:20 PM // 19:20

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep

I choose to play both male and female characters, I didnt like any of the choices for monk when I first started so my monk is a guy....and I have a male rit as well (he is cute

)....

I did choose to make a female monk, but have several male chars because I preferred their looks over that of that their female counterparts (Rit and Para come to mind). If guys can play female toons, I see no reason why I shouldn't play male toons. Mrwar!

Nightmares Hammer · Mar 12, 2008, 07:32 PM // 19:32

I once got kicked from a guild for being Scottish...

Funnily enough, the guy who kicked me was English. (just sayin'

)

phan · Mar 12, 2008, 07:41 PM // 19:41

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Originally Posted by Taurucis

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Don't tell them your a girl ; end of story

Taurucis · Mar 12, 2008, 07:43 PM // 19:43

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Originally Posted by phan

Don't tell them your a girl ; end of story

I want them to know that there's a girl out there, keeping the aggro off them, kicking their asses, saving their asses, and trampling the opposition. Some of the reactions I got from insecure little boys when they heard that a girl just beat them... oh, priceless.